also remember he is a no 3 batsman

when u have openers like Sehwag who doesnt score more than 10 runs then as a captain n no 3 batsman u have to make sure that u dont give the opposition a chance to take a wicket.

Also he knew Sachin is not in form n Yuvraj just came back frm injury then u dun expect fast game from him

very well said chiggi... ...tussi cha gaye

Chiggi12 aggression is not a quality that cannot be seen, you call a person aggressive through his performance(no offence).... if you can detect it in some other way, youare really good in human psychology

Well if you say he needs sometime to prove he needs more matches to prove his captaincy, y don u acceot his captaincy has been poor atleast till now....
If he needs more time, for what? according to you he has experience of 100 tests, he shld hav got every decision perfect.... This also prove captaincy is more about attitude than experience...

Graeme Smith hadnt played too many tests either b4 being a captain.......

I agree that being a no.3 batsmen he had to ensure that another wicket doesnt fall,
but did he ensure that in the third test? Now you wud say it was just one test.... It was the time whn the team needed him the most.....

And playing safe doesnt mean you don have to score, after all match is won by the team who makes more runs rather than the team spending more time at the crease.......

You say the combination of the team wasnt correct..... let me ask you doesnt the captain give inputs in choosing the side?

He didnt expect a fast game from sachin after seeing his performance in first test??? yuvraj singh is naturally agressive....

Thnx to Chiggi12 4 supporting me......

I respect andappreciate d views of all, I started this topic bcoz many people rated Dravid as the perfect captain for India and I wanted to know the reason y?

And I m still searching for atleast 1 good, strong reason....

I'm not sure why you are giving the example of Graeme smith because I havn't seen him as a good enough captain. He's just at the par! SA team would be performing much better if they had a better captain, as with every other team. Same is the case with indian team, I wouldn't say dravid's the best but I don't think there is anyone else who can take the responsibilty either. Experience counts a lot! Not everything moves towards the right direction with trial n' error.

You're talking against human nature.

I contradict.. It's a balance between both! The more aggressive the play, the more wickets you loose (depending on factors like bowling attack and the pitch). In test cricket, the winner's the one who maintains a balance. Ironically, it's usually the patience that players lack.

If u think aggression is something like taking ur Tshirt out n waving or provoking ur team mates to sledge then I think u r mistaken. It is somthing which comes from ur game

but tell me how can u make Yuvraj a captain a person who has never been consistent n also as Asad said no one can be perfect. U think Ricky or Graeme r perfect then let me tell u Ricky was the worst coz if u score 400 on board in ODI n then loose then therez nothing worse than that n also u might have seen the 1st test betn SA n AUS there the way SA played acc to ur theory Graeme shud be worst captain

u say he is not a good captain till now then dun forget that India has won 12/16 last ODIs

I know they havent done well in tests but lemme tell u the stats after Rahul became the captain

Ind Sri - India won 2-0

Ind Pak - Pak won 1-0

Ind Eng - Drawn series 1-1

well the stats rnt that bad so u can rate him n average captain but u say he is the worst

n I must tell u the ODI stats make him the best Indian captain

I know they havent done well in tests but lemme tell u the stats after Rahul became the captain

Ind Sri - India won 2-0

Ind Pak - Pak won 1-0

Ind Eng - Drawn series 1-1

well the stats rnt that bad so u can rate him n average captain but u say he is the worst

n I must tell u the ODI stats make him the best Indian captain


this is true!

Experience counts, it helps you to take the right decision. But Dravids experience told him to bowl on the first day in India and bat on the fifth day....

Yes captaincy is a balance between defense and aggression.....If aggression makes you loose wickets, it also helps you to score.... If defense protects the wickets then it also dries out the runs....

Take the example of Aussies, no matter how many wickets fall, they never giv up aggression...
SA wudnt hav scored 400 if they sat thinking it is out of their reach.....

Captain shld always show confidence in his players.... Dravid did in case of bowlers but wht abt batsmen???

Aggression definately shows out of ur game, and according to that if India was aggressive thn it was just during the last session of Nagpur test.... which India almost won...

Ind Sri - India won 2-0

Ind Pak - Pak won 1-0

Ind Eng - Drawn series 1-1

Sri Lanka, in the series against India was at the bottom of their form.....

Pak series we lost...

Englands second string team looked dominant against a full side Indian team in India...

These stats don impress any1......

Best captain in ODI???????? After winning 1 Series? Remember during the Pakistan ODI series Shoaib Akhtar wasnt in the side.... It definately was a big factor..

look man if u say oppostion was not having their main players then thats not being fair to the Indian team

if u say Sri was out of form then consider that India is out of form in test n sit back n enjoy

if u say Shoaib wasnt there then lemme tell u that he didnt do any damage in the tests it was Mhomd Asif who did

yes u say Eng dun have their main players but then who knows they might have failed but their young players didnt like Cook n Shah

ODIs and tests are getting mixed up over here. Test matches require more patience than aggression.

Have confidence in a player(s) known to be out of form?? In my opinion, that would be just stupid (no offence) and would result in loosing a match that could least be drawn.

Let me tell you if dravid would've played in the first test aggressively, england team would have been able to pick his vital wicket earlier and india would've been under pressure. And do you think it would've been completed if they got another 60-70 bowls? I doubt!, i highly doubt!

well again it was just according to ur theory u called him worst captain at the loss of just one series then similarly he can be the best captain by winning one series isnt it

Hum logo mein yehi problem hai..sabki khaal udhedne mein lage rehte hain..Abhi Ganguly ka case thhanda hua nahin ki ab dravid ke peechhe pad gaye..Dravid ke baad..Sehwaag ke peechhe pad jayenge..aur ye silsila aise hi chalta rahega..

Yes definately in the Pak Tests Mohd Asif was more threatening than Shoaib...

But he was more threatening thn our Indian bowlers as well, but still Indian bowlers were able to restrict pak better y??????
Bcoz Indian attack had not so bad 'four bowlers'...... After Mohd Asifs 10 overs there was almost no challenge for Indian Batting in ODIs....
But in Tests, a 20 over spell frm MA did the trick for Pakistan..... And in ODIs definately another 10 overs from Shoaib wud have made a big difference...

If u r saying that Dravid played slow bcoz Indian batsmen were out of form, in the first test match????? On what basis did he predict that????? Whn all the Indian batsmen looked in form in the previous tour in Pak?????

Yes, the worst captain after 2 test series loss (England Test series was really a loss).....

And to support me, I have got the point of view of Mr. Sidhu, who in a NDTV show clearly said, "India lost the last test not bcoz of poor batting or bowling but just bcoz of bad decision making, Dravid messed it up"

No 'agu10', i really support all the members of team India, even Dravid is a Great Batsman, but he doesnt apply his mind properly......

I wud like his batting as he played in the first ODI.... He has the ability but doent uses it...

The pitch was bad, but he continued to hit great shots till his defense failed him...

Team India did not deserve to loose or tie the series..... it is a much better side...

come on they were playing test after loosing a test series where India cud have won with the early wickets India took

but the batsmen were pathetic there

so I think that makes u very much aware of the fact that Indian batsmen r not in form

well have u been following that show ?? Siddhu out of emotions says soooo much when India looses but if they win the next match then he ll start saying they r the best

even he never sticks to his own statements

as I said b4 that u r very much correct when u say that Rahul made a wrong decision to field but just for one wrong decision doesnt make him the worst captain

India lost the Pak series..... Almost every Indian Batsmen had scored a century in the previous two tests.... they were in pretty good form in the Pak ODI series..... And they proved it in the last session of the first test vs Eng.....

Well if Mr. Sidhu's opinion has no value thn wht abt the commentators of the match????? They must have seen the pitch themselves and they never thought Dravid wudd take such a stupid decision......

Any captain requires time to prove himself...... but whn team's pride is at sake you don play wid it or in other words experiment.....

Dravid is far too experienced not to make such foolish decisions....